thursday, april 12, 2007
8:02
me:
glaring errors?
you tell me george and susan b. weren't gettin' it on
navyspouse3:
Maybe if she dug up his corpse....
me:
were they that far apart?
navyspouse3:
SBA, 1820 - 1906, according to wikipediwrong. And George probably would've considered himself a vet of the 7 years war. But that's more semantics. One man's Bull Run is another man's Manassas.
me:
didn't she make the first flag?
navyspouse3:
Betsy Ross, dude.
me:
AHHHHHH
lol
i totally got my two historical babes mixed up
damn.
navyspouse3:
SBA was the women's suffrage activist.
And no man of George's stature would've touched SBA...except maybe with a bat.
me:
you think george got good colonial tail?
navyspouse3:
I think the term Battle Axe was first applied to a woman referring to her.
Oh heck yeah. Powerful man like that HAD to get the colonial tail.
me:
i don't want to think of george being like that.
i know franklin was
jefferson too
definitely hamilton
but not washington.
navyspouse3:
Just look at Franklin, Jefferson...and the guy was away from the plantation for what, 80% of his adult life? I'd love to think he was faithful to Martha, but it's not like he was without ego.
me:
so you think the "crossed the delaware" a lot then.
duffy was threatening legal action if i kept making fun of jefferson.
he said i could use elbridge gerry and hamilton.
navyspouse3:
You know he made some trips to South Philly and Olde Times Square to sample the local flavor.
Ye Olde Times Square Nude etchings store.
me:
lol
he was a big fan of the magazine "juggs of an outstanding prominence"
navyspouse3:
LOL... I like Jefferson, A LOT, him and Franklin...but it's silly to be blind to what we KNOW to be the case, for several of them.
me:
"when in the course of human events I must have some poo-nanny lest I go insane"
yes
the contemporary-standards-to-past-historical-figures thing bothers me.
navyspouse3:
Put it this way, knowing what we know today about men in those positions of power -- and knowing that there were at least a few men of similar stature back then who behaved the same -- it just seems more likely than not to me. But George could've been the Jimmy Carter of 1795, lusting only in his heart and feeling guilty even about that.
The first and last suggestion you will ever see, anywhere, of similarities between Jimmy Carter and George Washington.
me:
except on huffingtonpost.com or airamerica.com
navyspouse3:
In 1869, long time friends Frederick Douglass and Susan B. Anthony found themselves, for the first time, on opposing sides of a debate. The Equal Rights Association, which had originally fought for both blacks’ and women’s right to suffrage, voted to support the 15th Amendment to the Constitution granting suffrage to black men, but not women. Anthony questioned why women should support this amendment when black men were not continuing to show support for women’s voting rights.
Frederick Douglass replied, "Give dem crazy bitches the vote? Bitch, you cookin?"
me:
lol
and would it decrease his stature in your eyes if george were the bill clinton of his era?
(last time you'll see washington and bubba compared, at least from me)
i think he muttered something about her "laffy taffy" and walked away
navyspouse3:
First thing that went through my head reading the passage above. I'm a bad man. But I had to take my mind off the picture of Susan B Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton on that wiki page. Enough to make my dick permanently soft.
It would not decrease my opinion of George if he were a horndog, BTW. That wasn't what bothered me about WJC, anyway.
me:
i can't say that i'm bothered by anyone being a horndog, as i totally understand the impulse
i can say i'm bothered by infidelity
but i'm weird that way
in that i'm SURE he made a promise before god not to do that
as did i
and i take that insanely, earth-shatteringly seriously
make a promise to The Big Man
you really gotta keep it
at the same time
i vacillate
b/c i know it happens
and i know otherwise good people do it
and i know that spouses have learned to make peace with it
navyspouse3:
Right, and it's not something I would do either. I don't approve of it, but it's not something it's my place to judge.
me:
but is it judging to say "i disagree with that, and i think it shows a flaw in personality, therefore i won't be associated with that person anymore?"
navyspouse3:
That's your choice; On a personal level, I don't disagree with it, and would probably feel the same way, because if they've really made a commitment to their spouse that they're breaking, then they're probably not going to be trustworthy with you either.
me:
i keep hearing "render unto caesar what is caesar's; render unto god what is god's"
26:51
in that case, i'm naming my first born "caesar yahweh"
navyspouse3:
But, I've also known people with "arrangements" that I didn't know about at the time (and why should I?) which puts a different light on the situation, for me anyway.
me:
i was going to blog this
but it looks too deep
navyspouse3:
Sure, why not?
me:
if you're OK with it
i thought it'd be funny
but it turned awfully serious
navyspouse3:
I could throw in a joke about the size of Thomas Jefferson's "Little Jeff" if that would lighten it up at all.
me:
go for it
navyspouse3:
And since Duffy doesn't know where to find me, so much the better.
me:
LOL
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